Many of my past employers actually publish their benefits on their public-facing websites. I’d say you gave her more than enough chances. Reply What It’s Really Like to Work at Some of the World’s Most Iconic Brands, 8 Companies Offering Seriously Good Financial Benefits, 10 UK Jobs Where You Can Earn More Than £65,000, The 25 Highest Paying Companies in the UK for 2019, 10 Highest Paying Entry-Level Jobs in the UK, The Best Questions to Ask at an Interview, According to a Hiring Manager, 5 Keys to Preparing for a Competency-Based Interview. I lean towards that here based on the attitude you got from said recruiter, which sounded like she conveniently forgot all about your conversation on Friday. This. It doesn’t sound like this place has their sh*t together and you’re lucky to not have to be dealing with a place that has a ridiculous turnaround policy, no benefits, or who will rescind an offer because they think they found someone better. There was also the really odd one where the candidate wrote in expressing disbelief that the company had moved on with someone else, but they’d gone back to the employer with a strange response like ‘I cannot but accept this’ – which they thought meant ‘I accept this wholeheartedly’ and the company thought meant ‘I cannot accept this’. Then they’d keep looking for something I could work on. And I just checked the letter for my most recent job and again while it doesn’t have a lot of specifics on health insurance it does at least have a note about the waiting period (which at my current job is none). All of a sudden I get a lousy review and notice. If people rely on read receipts, they really shouldn’t. Sounds like the HR person screwed up on that. I wish I knew what happened. Perhaps recruiter screwed up and was saving face. I knew of one absolute chump who did something similar to people who didn’t “work out” before their first check. This will replace the current featured interview for this targeted profile. I expressed concern saying I had announced this to my employer, and I imagine the frustration showed in voice as the woman said “you see – we cannot have this attitude at our firm”. Other than this company being completely awful, I agree that it must be #2. My boss and his boss reacted with so much vindictive pettiness that the guilt immediately turned to anger, which was a much more productive emotion. Oh I’ve seen these switcharoos before, that’s for sure! My current company provides a benefits summary with the offer, which I really liked – it doesn’t list the details of e.g. If you have an eye condition, you would be uninsured on my current insurance.). So I snatched the door back open, mad this time and said “Do I need to say scram this time? It was mostly going over resume, and some technical questions. No way in hell would I accept a job offer without knowing what my salary, medical benefits, and time off looks like. But unlike Just J, we do NOT negotiate on PTO or benefits, which is also clearly outlined in our policies. 2 December 2013. Our firm had never before gone through the H1B process. That’s totally what it seems like! We don’t work for free. They would visit without inviting me and when I expressed hurt feelings they’d say “we didn’t think you were interested.” They then ghosted me for a week and finally called to rescind the offer. Medical care is the major cause of bankruptcies in the US and most people who are bankrupted by medical treatment HAVE insurance. They negotiated my start date to Monday. They might not be able to give you full details, but it’s reasonable to ask for info about benefits once you’re discussing the terms of a job offer. There’s a special personality out there that thinks that “daring to even lowkey negotiate with them” is a sign of disrespect and a giant red flag waving in their face that you’ll be “difficult”. I think he expected me to grovel but I had about 3 minutes of irritation because I’d just done my hair, and then blocked him and ordered myself a pizza. I interviewed at Deloitte (New York, NY (US)). Terms of a contract; they offer, you accept, is what it is. This is me. Maybe the person was ill, or had a family emergency. You sign it on the website. Ugh. Neither one comments on the honesty of the person making the statement. You did nothing wrong. But OP, what you did was normal. It shouldn’t be done without a very good reason. In fact, I think you dodged a bullet because this is, at least, a yellowish-orange flag. Work homepage. I’ll consider a cut in base salary if insurance, retirement contribution, or whatever are exceptionally good. I took the warehouse job (which paid more and had insurance) and when the label guy called to make an offer, I politely declined saying I’d already been hired elsewhere. And that you’re not going to have to invest all your vacation time plus when you return unraveling issues that weren’t handled consistently while you were gone. And OP didn’t even take the weekend. My husband didn’t really question the health insurance when he was hired at his current company. 23.8 Excessive leave accruals:direction by employer that leave be taken (a) If an employer has genuinely tried to reach agreement with an employee under clause 23.7(b) but agreement is not reached (including because the employee refuses to confer),the employer may direct the employee in writing to take one or more periods of paid annual leave. My company had interviews going when a hiring freeze hit. Then had to backtrack. 2. Maybe that’s the letter you are thinking of? Well, you could technically go to either one but if they accept your insurance it might be a $15 co-pay and if they don’t it could be hundreds of dollars for the exact same treatment. Is this the work version of “fine you’re not that hot anyways”? I wouldn’t be surprised if the OTHER candidate ends up declining the offer and this company was like “oh sh*t, wonder if OP would still accept?”. Working there would likely have severely limited my next job options…. I, unfortunately, took the bullet a few years ago. If a company is going to be this callous towards you as a candidate, what would it be like as an employee when that power imbalance is even worse? ArmorCat, if it makes you feel better it is not usually limited to *one* doctor. If the ‘miscommunication’ was really her dropping the ball (e.g. I may not receive the detailed package, but I’ve always received a summary of benefits – how many days of leave, types of insurance offered (though not necessarily the cost or name of the insurance company), transit subsidies, retirement, training/education. I mean, even if there was a snafu with the email or something, one would think the recruiter would like, ask OP about it before just pulling the offer. I interviewed at a label making company, and then at a frame warehouse. A few years later I felt Schadenfreude when I read that he had been fired from a college professorship for at least financial improprieties. He’s outstanding! Whenever I see recruiter, I assume that the person is 3rd party to the company looking to make a hire. I don’t sound enthusiastic about anything, ever, and never mind the odds are high that you might call a candidate while they are at work, with people, or just not in a good location to give a loud “Hurray”. By the 90s, however, this was mostly no longer true. This is DEFINITELY NOT your fault. A lot of companies embed trackers in email/documents so they believe that they know when people read items even though there are several products/settings that prevent these trackers. It’s good practice because it means they can be more prepared for a phone call, or else if they don’t have time for a call they could just shoot back a few answers when they have a moment. I think I recall one where it was rescinded on the spot just for asking for a day or two to think it over, but not one like this where they agreed to the time (as they should because that’s normal) and then later rescinded upon receiving follow-up questions like in this one. But, within a year, I had a job that paid 65K, which led, the year after to a job that paid 80K. I think most people in her shoes would see the fact that you called and emailed as a sign that you looked at the offer and had questions–why else would you be calling? He FIRED PEOPLE from a company he wouldn’t stay at!? The 2021 world men's curling championship, one of six competitions to be held this season in a so-called bubble setting in Calgary, remains on the schedule. My husband and I agree that they were mad that I negotiated and two dared to want more information on their “bonus” program. Nobody would be thrilled about it because nobody can live on such low pay. Based on this account, you didn’t do anything wrong. I’m a specialist and had a history of being underpaid and had fought really hard to get to that pay point. Or who knows what. My brother worked for a company that wanted him to relocate to their headquarters and it took him over a year to negotiate that with family court and his ex. Then later that day, the recruiter asked me to push it to Wednesday because their department was wrapping up an audit.
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